Who am I to challenge hundreds years of false man-made tradition, like Jesus, Martin Luther, Columbus, Copernicus and Galileo? ), If you cant prove me wrong, you dont have to say Im right, you dont have to agree, but dont say that Im wrong. If you are sure Im wrong but you dont have time to prove it, that means you are either lazy, willfully ignorant, or are breaking the 9th of the Ten Commandments, You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.. Your name never appears in the Bible after your appointment as the 12th Apostle in Acts 1. The reason why the Essenes left and went into the desert was because they believed the Pharisee were to lax in their laws and punishment in the Sanhedrin. because he said so. The Pharisee Gamaliel is mentioned twice in the New Testament (Acts 5:34; 22:3). In Philippians Paul describes himself as a Diaspora Jew who claimed to have been raised in a family which kept the Jewish traditions faultlessly. There were plenty of other messianic pretenders besides Jesus, the difference is that some claimed that he was raised form the dead. (check out wikipedia on yeshiva, that will give you a feel for a Torah / talmudic education, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshiva), I could careless who Saul aka Paul studied with ,the fact that someone studies does not hold anything within that person thinking or make up. There are some good reasons to investigate Pauls claim to have been educated by Gamaliel. Its not prejudice, youre blatantly misquoting Paul, Shammi and Hillel. at the feet of Gamaliel"). Mainstream Judaism also reject Josephus and its evident that he was clearly Jewish. Maybe there is someone I could bounce this off, to get some ideas. The answer to that question is, they have been listening to the voice of Paul, rather than the voices of Jesus and the Original Apostles. Sages of the time didn't have formal recognition or title. Well considering I am infact Jewish I dont need your advice on what I should read. Lets listen to the voice of Jesus first, and get our priorities straight. Every Book of it, every Chapter of it, every Verse of it, every word of it, every syllable of it.. every letter of it, is the direct utterance of the Most High!, Not all the Christians think this way about the Bible however., It depends greatly on which Jesus, and what you mean by believe. The underlying basis is, what is the supreme written Word of God, above all others?, I believe in the Jesus of the Gospels (Matthew Mark Luke & John in the Christian Bible.). Well considering I am infact Jewish I dont need your advice on what I should read.. Dmando0110. No one in the pages of Bible ever said that all Scripture is EQUAL. Removing that aspect will cause misunderstanding of what they were teaching. To Paul, Christianity was dangerous, and to his Jewish thinking, very wrong. With respect to Hellenism, Hillel was more open to Hellenism than Shammai and was therefore more open to cooperation with the Romans. Dear Wilson, Yes there are ! His dissertation was published as Jesus the Bridegroom by Pickwick Books in 2012. To date, there is either historical nor tradional evidence to support Sauls presence. Study sets, textbooks, questions. Your ignorant slander of Paul shows a deep seated hatred toward God and His word. The translation of his relics is observed on August 2 . His voice is so much greater Than paul the Pharisee. Hello A. Gazali, It seems you have a hunger for the truth. I am not uncomfortable with you at all, although some other users have suggest you be banned for your rather odd way of thinking. http://www.problemswithpaul.com/Apostle_Paul.html. Considering the writing of the Mishnah and Talumd are collection of previous works from various Yeshivas (ie before the New Testament) clearly shows you have no idea what youre talking about in regards to Judaism and how the text was culminated. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. But Pauls teachings drive one up the wall. I have said I will ignore you since you are not interested in dialogue. 2. Therefore, in times when there is no clarity, we should end there and not come up with our own assumptions. Acts presents the evangelizing apostle and church leader Barnabas as a model of integrity and character. There were no other New Testament books, and the Hebrew Scriptures were the Old Testament which was irrelevant, according to the heretic Marcion.) it is not uncommon for a student to disagree with his teachers viewpoints. R. N. The teachings he received included "the perfect manner of the law of the fathers" (Acts 22:3). Jesus never calls us out For what we used to be. It would be like me claiming that I was educated in worship by Marco Barrientos at Christ for the Nations in Dallas Texas he is the worship leader famous in Spanish Language Charismatic Christian circles for his song based on Isaiah 11:9 Ser Llena la Tierra https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zGS_V5mEOG4, Is it true? Wow, theyre dropping like flies. In Matthew 22 and Mark 12, Jesus identified two commandments, saying one of them is the first and greatest most important one. Jesus calls us to Himself When The Show begins Were infants so He humors us Its Rocky and His Friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE. Pauls athletic references are too pervasive in his letters for him to have shared the antipathy that some Jews felt toward the games. Calling him a good man (Acts 11:24), a prophet and teacher (13:1), an apostle (14:14) and one through whom God worked miracles (15:12), Acts loads him with accolades. Ill do it then. By claiming to have been under the teaching of this particular rabbi, Paul is claiming to have been educated in a most impressive way. The revelation of the Gospel directly from Jesus Christ (Gal 1:12), most probably in Arabia. I was attracted to the school because they put Pauls mantra of All Scripture is God-breathed above everything else, and I wanted to heed Pauls command and Preach the Word like Paul. Even if someone wants to be argumentative and say we cant prove that Judas wasnt there at the time, we certainly cant prove that Judas WAS there. . Only $35.99/year. But he certainly reinforces your prejudice and misunderstanding of the New Testament. Dang, I wrote that and didnt respond to your last point. He studied under the best Jewish teachers including the well-respected teacher, Gamaliel . Paul said no, it ONE commandment- to love people. We know that as a young man Paul studied under the tutelage of Rabbi Gamaliel in Tarsus, who provided him with an expert knowledge of the Hebrew Scriptures ( Acts 22:3 ). Gamaliel was the grandson of Hillel, the most renowned rabbi in Jewish history. In my reading, it would seem that many doubt the claim that one as zealous as Paul could not have sat at the feet of Gamaliel. This is the reason why Yeshua said that Pharisee should be the the ones teaching. "Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. Paul is a master of both and since you do not understand oral law, its lead you to believe that Paul is a Shammite of all things. If Saul is in fact a disciple of Gamaliel, then he seems to have a considerably different opinion on how to handle the apostolic witness when we meet him in Acts 9. This applies to the Pharisee sect. There are many of us Red Letter Christians out here in evangelical land. My buddy has a new friend from a Baptist background that seems really smart and good with words. In fact, it is in this capacity where he is first mentioned in Acts 5. The biblical Christian has but one authority and tradition, trust and SolaHoly Scripture! But that isnt the only meaning, or even the first and primary meaning. I am one of those who obey Gods commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. [Revelation 12:17] No Im not perfect without sin, and No I dont know everything now. How can I make them understand that they should deal with Paul Worship the same way that I deal with smoking weed? They are Right On! Infact, the sect that condemned Yeshua were Sadducee. What is undisputed is that Gamaliel was "held in . If you continue to post long rambling and inaccurate responses I will ban you from the site. Yes I agree its a commandment given by Jesus, its not optional, and it applies to us today. Why do so many people frequently attack and tear down and dismiss the Original Apostles, particularly Peter, as if they were all incompetent, stupid, and wrong in so many ways, and they didnt even know what an Apostle was? Maybe, from what I have seen of him he does not go to great lengths on anything. The first thing was that they might be with Him personally, together, for His entire earthly ministry, from the time of John the Baptist until Jesus rose to heaven. (The Hat is, what were Pauls sins?) Here are the basic steps- (there may be one or two other basic steps, but they are very similar to these. I have been looking and wanted to know about the Gamaliel , because in Nepal we have competition for the ranking and Im bit aware of this and I have burden for our people in Nepal not go this way and I want to teach as a teacher to be out from this kinds of Gamaliel position, who just want to be in the meeting not taking burden of their neighbor who need Jesus than taking a position in the Gamaliel meetings. Religious Jews, who were living under the Law, were asking Jesus (at that time a teacher of the Law) concerning The Law. He was a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. Created by. Paul (previously called Saul of Tarsus; c. 5 - c. 64/65 AD), commonly known as Paul the Apostle and Saint Paul, was a Christian apostle who spread the teachings of Jesus in the first-century world. God made us and loves us and He does reveal His will in language we can gladly receive, comprehend and obey. How can we account for this violent reaction in a man trained by Gamaliel? The quicker we do it, the more profitable it is for us. When and where did they first meet. You are using anachronistic terms to describe a pre-70 Jewish teacher like Paul. We cannot be completely certain exactly which Scriptures Paul meant in All Scripture, and what Paul meant by God-breathed. Why cant we be certain? teresa marina tabucchi; antonia reininghaus daughter; mountain view ar tornado 1996; safari photography settings; catfish bite force; professional executor services Was Judas present when Jesus spoke those words? N. T. Wright describes the Shammaite Pharisee as a militant hard-liner that was not willing to work with Rome as long as they could study the Torah, as Hillel had said (What Saint Paul Really Said, 26). Blessings following the Jesus of the Gospels. The sentence begins with So in the NIV and Amplified Bibles, and Therefore in the NASB and King James Bibles, which ties 7:12 to the previous sentences. You do not know what my background or what ive read. As Gamaliels Christianity is attested in the Clementine Literature, one may, with care, posit an early date for the tradition. Polhil states that perhaps around the age of fourteen to sixteen Paul went to Jerusalem to study under Gamaliel (Acts 22:3), (30). Gamaliel the Elder was the grandson of the great Jewish Rabbi Hillel the Elder, and he kept to Hillel's interpretation of Jewish law. Peter testifies of this in 2 Peter 3:16. There once was a phony named Paul who lied about God he had gall. But Jesus said, do not take the best seats (Luke 14:7-11), and to be like a child (Luke 18:15-17). We'll address more of this in a moment. These mostly have something to do with marriage and divorce. Paul would say his success came from the power of the Gospel and the Holy Spirit. Ridiculous. QUOTE The Bible is none other than the voice of Him that sitteth upon the throne! St. Paul is simply an elect vessel, as an Apostle! Same question; What were Pauls specific sins as a Christian? The words spoken by Jesus, recorded in our Bible by Matthew Mark Luke & John, should be above all other words. When Christ was first preached multitudes gladly received the word. Since the garage is smaller, we can finish that quicker. Paul was accustomed to learning from his elders as he developed as a Pharisee (Galatians 1:14). A scribe would be among the most highly educated in Judaism, and since at the feet of Gamaliel implies a mentoring relationship, it seems to me that a near-equivalent would be a serious specialized Masters Program, if not a PhD. Indeed in this case Christian tradition cannot really be trusted, in my opinion. WE are not even in this game! Dear Philip, Below are quotes and links from two other blog gentlemen (Christopher, and UnashamedofJesus) who disagree with each other. No one. Once you have taken the covenant you are native born. The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas. But the testimonies of the era indicate he would have become a ward and trainee of Gamaliel in the age range of 10-14. Hmmmm.. So no there was zero Christianity in the book of Acts. Phillip J. To be more like Jesus is what some strive except for me Ive already arrived Im the perfect model since the road to Damascus What were Pauls sins? Gamaliel was himself a Pharisee in the tradition of the great Hillel. Gamaliel taught between A.D. 22-55, giving us an approximate early date for Paul's education. Written in stone. What could be more permanent than that? Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. According to Photius, he was baptized by Saint Peter and Saint John, together with his son and Nicodemus. Polhill observes that several rulings of Gamaliel appear in the Mishnah, mostly having to do with marriage and divorce. The relics of Saint Stephen were translated several months later to . [erase erase erase]. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection. [Acts 1:21-22]. . This is what happens when you dont study near eastern culture and context before reading scripture. Acts 21:39 - "But Paul said, ' am a Jew from Tarsus, in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city . Gamaliel may or may not have taken over the position when Simon died. Even though Gamaliel was the one who stated in Acts 5:34-39 that if this Jesus movement were from God there would be no way to stop it, they should just let it run its course, Paul was still influenced heavily by the persecution mindset that the rest of the Sanhedrin had. The moment Paul stopped persecuting the disciples of Jesus Christ, he stopped fighting against God. Later, when Im at the height of my career, and Im financially secure and I dont have to worry about finding a job or keeping my job, and I have some real influence- maybe 40 years from now, when Im, like, in my sixties, say in around 2013- thats when Ill really be able to stand up for Jesus. As for your denial of a range of opinions in the first century, I suggest a something on the Dead Sea Scrolls, representing a more conservative view of practice than the Pharisees or Sadducees. This has literally been the Orthodox position for almost 2000 years. Or the series on Jewish Christianity starting here: https://readingacts.com/2018/01/18/introducing-jewish-christian-literature/. The majority of the rest of the book of Acts and the New Testament tells much about Paul's effective ministry as he served the Lord. Rather than the many trails of supposition. When did Paul study under Gamaliel? 3). N. T. Wright describes the Shammaite Pharisee as a militant hard-liner that was not willing to work with Rome as long as they could study the Torah, as Hillel had said (What Saint Paul Really Said, 26). Gamaliel is not a Christian, but he certainly demonstrates that attitude in this story! Then when the paint is dry, Ill move back into the house, and you can paint the garage., The painting contractor hired a new foreman named Paul, and gave him the homeowners instructions. If you dont ask about Pauls sins, I wont tell about them. Here are 3 examples. in a meticulous, more comprehensive way. . Tobit is a good reference In the Babylonian Talmud, Zevahim 97b and 100b there are statements given in the name of Rabbi Akiva that in the case of an unclaimed body, if no one is attending to it, the responsibility for the buriasl of this corpse falls on this person, who must do it despite any obstacles, regardless if one is a High Priest or Nazirite, neither of whom are allowed to become tamei, ritually impure. It seems that Pauls upbringing and learning under Gamaliel would have to play some role in the way that he thought, taught, and formed his theology. Just as Muslims believe that Muhammad never intentionally disobeyed God, Roman Catholics believe Mary was sinless and Evangelical Christians think its heresy to state flatly Paul was WRONG., The Apostle Matthew recorded that at Jesus baptism, A voice from heaven said, This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. [Matthew 3:17], In Gospel of Mark (Mark recorded the teaching of the Apostle Peter), we read: a voice came from the cloud: This is my Son, whom I love. Furthermore, youre also essentially calling Paul a liar. What were Pauls specific sins as a Christian? But that was the requirement Jesus gave to sit on thrones: You are those who have stood by me in my trials. You, speaking to His 11 Apostles who had been walking with Him faithfully for 3 years. The words of Jesus are superior to the words of everyone else in the Bible and to everyone else in the world. The Lord Our God is ONE God Greatest Commandment according to the Messiah (p). One possibility is that Paul was not of the Hillel form of Pharasism, but rather the more conservative Shammaite party. In fact Paul was called Shaliach and Yeshua was called Rabbi. Have you even stepped inside shul? Islam is the truth, Allah Akbar/God is Greatest. Yes you clearly are removing them from Jewish culture and using Constantine-Christianity and replacement theology to float most of your website. We cant read without any number of lenses (Suppositions) coloring our reading. It is possible that Paul was not of the Hillel form of Pharasism, but rather the more radical Shammaite party. The relics were found on 3 August AD 415. etc. Mantra (noun) (Hinduism.) Why are you waiting, be of those who bow to Gods Will if you know that the Bible has lies in it and is corrupt, you must believe that a true religion exists in the world and isnt a secluded secret for the few who know! The Holy Trinity isnt Jesus, Paul, and Chuck. The later evidence of the Mishnah implies an Aramaic commentary on the Hebrew Bible, but that dates to AD 250. This is exactly what I am talking about, I have regularly posted articles on this blog saying the earliest Christians were Jewish and I often say in classes (and I am sure I have said it someplace here) that the earliest Christian theology (either Jesus or Paul) was quite similar to the Pharisees. Being in his mid-range teens allows for plenty of time for Pauls family to teach him the strict conservative Jewish ways that he often brings up. (Matthew 27:45). But you are still not a Muslim when our Quran is incorruptible and agrees with the teachings of Issa (p) more so than theology of Orthodox Church or any Christian denomination! Paul enunciated precisely the same principle in Romans 7:2 (Polhill 30). Or is it possible that Paul privately harbored more overall agreement with Gamaliel/Hillel than with Shammaite Pharisees, and that Paul felt himself to be a lone dissenter in rare cases (Christians) against his former masters legal hermeneutics of mercy? It makes a big difference to the owner, the worker objected. (I dare you to use this in your class), I know a girl made of memories and phrases, lives her whole life in chapters and phases -Jimmy Buffett. A generation before Christ there were two great rabbis, Hillel and Shammai. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some (1 Corinthians 9:22 ESV).. This does not seem so radically opposed to Rome. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. Even Festus said that Paul was very learned, Acts 26:24. In practical terms, regarding texts of the Bible, that means that the most important words are the words of Jesus recorded by The Apostles Matthew and John (closely followed by Mark) in my view. Paul was a Pharisee. In Acts 14:23, we read: Paul and Barnabas appointed elders for them in each church. He was brilliant and a top-educated person of his day. How about written in stone in heaven (in other words, for eternity.) 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