Pete has developed a real passion for the teachings of Taira Sensei and the Okinawan Goju Ryu Kenkyukai, travelling to training sessions in Australia, Okinawa, United States of America and New Zealand. "Men are rational animals" (Aristotle) is a definition, whereas men have two legs, and so forth, is just the description of men. Hope to see future articles like this as I have Black belts in Wado-ryu and Goju-ryu and would love to see articles posted about the foundations of those 2 styles. Kakie / kaki-e is pushing hands, and very similar to sticky hands (chi sau) in wing chun etc, although I believe that you use a bit more force in okinawan karate. Or simply "the lunge". The Meaning of Osu / Oss (+ When You Should NEVER Say It). My Name is Ruben and i have studied in Japanese and Okinawan Karate schools, so i have seen some of these differences. Have Okinawan & Japanese karate-ka who have lots of experience travelling and training all over the world comment on how the Okinawan and Japanese "styles" of karate have changed in different parts of the world. LONG WINDED OPINIONS / TRUE OR FALSE OR RESPECT? By the way what s your karate style? As a practitioner of Japanese Karate-Do(Kyokushin and JKA-Shotokan) also Iaido for over 35 years, I find these comparisons untrue unless you train at the Karate (karadee) Wannabie dojo. Just curious: :). Why be afraid of that? Nice article, but let me say that I do not agree with you at all in the sense that you generalize way too much in your comments, reasoning etc. "For example; when I went to Okinawa last summer, I learnt a new kata called Tomari Chinto." They couldn't care less whether your stances/form looked pretty, as long as you could show that you understood the PRINCIPLE. Oh wait, that's right, society has moved in the direction that everyone gets a ribbon just for entering an event. Put your feet together at the heels and toes. Kyokushin, being a tournament style, is popular in all of Japan (including Okinawa). Many masters contributed to the art's development - hence it is a combination of Chinese martial arts (quanfa in Chinese and kenp in Japanese). Gene sticks to his guns & backs up his position--he deserves applause (mine) like any strong kumite competitor. My question was if was there Kokutsu dachi with i the Plant of the feet on the ground, also goju ryu maybe have his version of kokutsu dachi. The Okinawan Karate of today has developed over centuries and was not the result of a single founder, as many schools of martial arts have been. *Yokoso*! Are there difference beetween karate stance on traditional okinawa karate, and japanese karate? I've been doing some research into Manji-uke as you find it in Bassai/Passai and what I've found is the entire Bassai/Passai sequence was lifted complete, whole as a unit *completely identifiably* from Shaolin (or other style) kung-fu forms. I have heard and read that there are hundreds of Karate dojos in Okinawa. You see we do have several practitioners who have taken their art to the ring. He is one of the first masters to teach Karate in Japan. TERMS are just the short cut to thinking you know "KARATE". IMO, I found Gene Foster's expert commentary on Wado Ryu excellent & substantive. All Rights Received. There is also the factor of variance due to complexity and Wing Chun does have a lot of variables, like the yin/yang energy and each technique tends to be not one set thing but often has different positions and purposes. I was knowing it (from readings), but my understanding was a result of "looking to sensei - doing it like him (copy and past ;) ) - feel, whats going on in my body". DEBATE IS HEALTHY/ KUMITE HAS "1" WINNER: thus this excellent comparison starts with okinawa te.. As someone who has practiced Okinawan karate and kobudo and have visited Japanese dojo (though mostly do Judo while living in Japan) I very much appreciate this article. While that might be true, spinning hook kicks have proven their effectiveness in MMA. L and R is pretty much an interchangeable sound in Japan. It focuses on kata, punches, elbow strikes, knee strikes and kicks.Many Karate schools also conduct Kobudo weapons training (i.e. 1. Moreover, I believe his original post bears careful reading & re-reading, & I will be doing so. I was never impressed. The Sai are found in both Okinawan and other oriental martial arts schools. After completing the move put your fists back at your waist. karate kata [eg goju] contain many breaks from grabs Uechi Ryu is a traditional Okinawan Karate style. Both are very important to the student and which depends on how the individual student is progressing and their understanding of what they are trying to accomplish. OSU! He was born in Shuri and was an active part of Karate practices in the Ryuku Kingdom. Bend your knees and turned them inward (to protect the groin). Whether you're looking for a way to get fit or just want to learn some self-defense techniques, Okinawan karate styles offer something for everyone! What did people wear for training pre 1920's? Perhaps you should have included Okinawan Flag before Japanese Occupation' even autonomous Symbol. Another great article Jesse. The purpose of Okinawan Karate has always been mainly self-defense oriented (the Why). 9. I have always been in love with the history of karate, and the history of Okinawa, one deeply related to the other. Everyone knows Kyokushin isn't designed for practicality, but for looks. This gearis still being used in Okinawan Karate today. Strike your leg as if you were hitting another person in the leg area with your knee. Uechi-ryusconnection with Chinese Shorin-ken means the former shares a similar foundation with Naha-Te despite their separate development. Second exercise is about how to cover from kicking, stomping and punching when you are on the ground. They also loved deep stances a la Shotokan, and when teaching kata, they would prioritize pretty form, explaining the function later. Reminds me why I continue to train at the club I do, where the others previously had this group mentality that the sensei was the one true barer of knowledge. The traditional martial arts included Kobudo in its curriculum. That bamboo isn't really fighting for survival. Good Article The pictorials in the book provide great help in developing the understanding of each move. The main aim behind those moves was to defend oneself from danger. Vanity seems to be standing in the way of people who cannot entertain the thought that someone is practicing a superior fighting style than themselves. * There exist many great teachers out there who are actually trying their best to be true to the art, the school and the inheritance. Isma, This was super interesting. Imi translates tomeaning in English. Was there the Kokutsu dachi shotokan version on okinawa karate? ?For example shotokan kokutsu dachi on kung fu is knew like San chi pu, and is really similar to Ban man pu . The stance involves moving your back leg forward, making the back knee to be pushed into the back of the other knee. I only have a few questions about their acceptance towards foreigners. In Okinawan Karate, there is something else: You see, in Okinawan Karate its not important to freezethe technique quickly. Shorin-ryuadjusts elements of the traditional fighting styles ofShuri-Te. There is a mix of both hard and soft techniques. the tuidi (pushing hands) is similar to Sticky shand used in wu shu? AD, and later by S *Soke Hausel, Shorin-Ryu karate, Gilbert, AZ* One uses what I would call kiba dachi and the other uses the higher naihahchi dachi, what my style would call soto hachi monji dachi. Although these moves are basic Karate moves, they are still only meant to be done in cases of self defense! (Read more about training Karate in Okinawa: The Practical Foreigners Guide to Training Karate in Okinawa The Birthplace of Karate). Although not very useful (my opinion) in itself, many stances and movements are in a way similar to those in okinawan karate. I started out with Shudokan (a spin-off of Shotokan) whe I was 8 and finished when I was 16. As a karate enthusiast, I always wondered how such a famous martial art developed on an island. And how Okinawans continued to practice their fighting skills in such difficult political times. That's to describe, but to DEFINE is lots more complex. Okinawans still consider themselves Okinawans. emailE=('martin' + '@' + emailE) Training in *martial arts* can be intense as well as entertaining. It can be used to block, stab, trap or strike. You actually used the word "learnt"! Congrats!!!! While we do tounraments they are very limited and the training for tournament kata for example is very different that our traditional kata. In contrast, the modern karate spaces are sportier and fancy in looks. Uechi-ryutraining styles are focused only on Sanchin training and body conditioning. Sure, the Okinawan tempo can seem slow comparedto the kill-or-be-killed tempo in some Japanese dojos but Iblame it on the tropical heat. At least I hope it was not your intention. what a great article, love itthanks do for sharing. It did not go over well at all. . It is known as Heiwa no Bu, which means the art of peace in Okinawa. Huh? Jim, Thanks for chiming in Jim-san! which i am going to present in university. As the author points out, so are the Okinawan. I'm 71 years old, and I have been a shotokan karate ka since I was young. Put your front foot in front of you at a 45 angle. Shorin Ryu comes from the word Shaolin of Chinese origin. If all you judge Karate is as a means to winning a fight, then I'm afraid you miss the point of studying karate. Although they're not based in Okinawa anymore, their values and practices are very much Okinawan. Shotokan always gets singled out as the ineffective style with funny low stances etc. The basic ready stance for kumite is Moto-dachi. WADO RYU & MMA Hi Jess ! But In Tokyo, I have been there for almost 20 years practicing Genseiryu, which has its roots on Okinawa. IMO, I think the article's author comparison of Okinawan & Japanese karates extremely valuable in understanding what it is we are striving for in different conventions & traditions of karate training. I am from Belfast but I now live in Manchester. This style has 46 Kata a relatively large number and this includes several weapons ones. Certain training practices, techniques were changed to suit the traditions of the audience to ensure that the Karate being taught was accepted. Nobody has the truth. Enjoyed the note or reading on using the full power of your body into an opponent when punching or striking. Branches of the same tree. The Okinawan-style club was VERY much about the why. fighting? During that time, monks, fighters, travelers, and merchants used to travel to China from Okinawa to gain knowledge in different aspects (as the Chinese continent is not very far from Okinawa). When you say I think my style is the best style because that is an opinion and there is nothing wrong with having an opinion. By how I see Shotokan is typically practiced, the emphasis is clearly on striking. I can't help but just laugh. | This all started over a great article published and got well out of hand. I would say that you almost have #2, but not entirely. Stances are very important in delivering power and also quick responses in various situations and are thus emphasis in Kihon (basic training). Now im wondering: Havent i understand the princip of kime the right (= japanese) way all the years or is the isolated understanding as "stopping/arresting" not the (fully) "right" idea of "kime"? That is not the case for all Japanese styles or practitioners, of course, but that is a generalization. IMHO, you are faulting my knowledge of MMA rather than responding to my statement. In this world of karate, it would be best not to jump the gun too early and generalize about things you may perhaps know something about, but not knowing enough about. Maximum vertical compression of the legs adds power by making the hips more stable and energy less disspated to the extremities via vibration, etc. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. What struck me most (and also feature as key points in your article) are the competitive nature of Japanese karate styles (I used to enjoy competing in point based tournaments in my younger years), when compared to the non-sport nature of Okinawan styles. Stances were very high and light, btw, as shown in #1. 1. P.S. In one word my feeling is that Okinawan Karate reamins unchanged faithful to his roots. You are espousing knowledge that is to be taken as fact. My post was to explain the facts as they apply to my style of Japanese Karate and correct the errors stated in the article. Okinawa-kenpo is a karate style which has been developed based on ancient Okinawan martial arts called "Ti". His style has been practicing in Okinawa and Japan till date. In fact, when you closely examine old-school kata, you will see that the bunkaiof the kata movements make much more sense in the close range. So it was not that one was more important than the other, but rather, how they were the opposite sides of the same coin- or another example of yin / yang.. The modern karate teachers of Okinawa to date teach his style in Dojos. Chosin Chibana was a top student of the great master ofShuri-te, Anko Itosu (1831-1915). It is natural that curious people would probe things relative to one another and then locate those things on a continuum from worst to best. Karate is a striking art using punching, kicking, knee and elbow strikes, and open-handed techniques such as knife-hands. Great read! I learned many years ago, that in order to evolve, you have to go outside of the box, and leave your safe environment. I wouldn't brag about being a direct lineage of Funakoshi Sensei, because while he was a great karateka, he didn't teach his students as well as he could have. Sport & sport fighting is a physical exercise. problem is - there are that may "additional reading" links - i'll be here for hours. :-). Techniques feature one knuckle punches, kicks using the big toe, spear hand that symbolically refer to Tigers Teeth and Crane's beak (moves emulating animal fighting techniques). We don't have a specific bunkai for each kata. Keep up your way! I also believe that the traditional karate styles, including Wado Ryu, are superior to the conventional training we see in MMA. While many believe that Karate has just one form and style from its native land, this articles breaks down such beliefs and tells us that there is lot more forms and styles practiced in various regions that are unique and distinct. The karatekas in Okinawa were taught the whys way before the hows. Kobudo. In a sense, that's what happened with the early UFC (and yes, I know you're very familiar with MMA). Stances utilized with the Nunchaku were the same as those utilized in karate so, again, the development of the two closely parelled each other . Trust me; youllnever see an Okinawan sensei teach you a spinning hook kick to the head! I've been a few times in Japan but never practicing karate, also never in Okinawa. I would love to do as you did and travel to the Okinawa to train with the masters. I have never had any Sensei tell me I must freeze my techniques at a fixed point. I doubt there is a big difference in our approach to separating sport karate from the true meaning of Budo. // protected email script by Joe Maller 8. Used in sets, the Sai are made of iron and weigh upwards of 3 pounds each. People also think differently, you might be sparring against people who are more kickers, more punchers, a balance of both, some people might be defensive fighters, others aggressive fighters, etc. Just as you could be considered an expert in Wado Ryu, I don't see how I need to be in expert in every style of traditional karate in order to have opinion which may be valid in some way. Here, Dr. Teule uses tonfa(side-handle baton) to strike the side If not, that could be number 12 ! Also, EVERYONE knows that Funakoshi Sensei had to "water down" Karate to teach it to the masses in Mainland. Japanese styles tends to perform kiba-dachi low and wide, whereas Okinawan styles use a higher and narrower version of it. Uechi-ryumeans Style of Uechi. We use cookies to make wikiHow great. Okinawa is situated in the middle of the trade route between Japan to the north and . Thanks for your great article. 1. The word "karate" (/krti/; Pronunciation in Japan: [ (listen) kaate] Pronunciation in Okinawan: [ kaati) is a Ryukyu Kingdom-developed martial art. Your article told me about the Okinawan why and the japanese how. Gichin Funakoshi, the writer of this book, was an honorable master of Okinawan Karate of his time. This spartan training environment actually adds to the focus of individualization over mass instruction. This iswhy Okinawan Karate is hard toteach a big group of people at once you simplycannot give adequate individual attention toa group of 50 students or more! Thanks for sharing! I am join your style but you can give me affiliated oll India in your federation but I will pay affiliated fee. How to Perform the Ten Basic Okinawan Karate Moves. Kenwa learned both Naha-te and Shuri-te and developed his fighting style. 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