I spoke with Dave24 after last weekend, he dropped the fronts down to 700 LF and 800 RF and got the cross down to 45.8%, pulled the bolt out and floated the RR spring. The engine should always be aligned perpendicular to the rearend and/or parallel to the centerline of the car. Has headers and exhaust pipe. As each season comes along, our knowledge of what we need and desire grows. The car may or may not be neutral in handling, but the handling will not be consistent. Roughly 8-10 degrees of third link angle is sufficient to promote antisquat and not hurt your corner entry. These 20" tires are what I have been waiting for at the Camaro 1LE height. These are the general rules unless you are trying to "tie down" a corner. Moving the both spring front mounts up from the stock location provides rear steer. A trend must prove itself in order to stand the test of time. We took all the cross out like Lee and trailed the RR and did not use much stagger. A tight condition is the number one complaint from drivers. John picked up a super-clean late '70s Camaro, put his drivetrain combo in it, and went racing. Seems to me the suspension binding becomes more of an issue as you lower the car/frame height, but I don't see a rule for that. Now, without changing the clutch load, press the throttle to the floor. Ready to race! The setup we choose needs to be arranged so that the dynamics are balanced between the front and the rear suspensions. Long gone are the days of saying that the MC is not important. This cam requires 3600+ RPM Converter, and loves 3.91 gearing. These Bilstein stock mount shocks and struts provide high-level traction and precise handling, as well as safety for your powerful sport suspension. Both of these are necessary components that will be needed to win championships. I have had a lot of feedback from teams who did the same with the same results. Another way to gain bite. Very strong to 6900 RPM. And as for you Modified and Stocker class teams, don't even think about it. Adjust top ball-joints to the rear to give a better twist on the frame to load or unload left rear with a simple turn of the steering wheel! I would suggest going to www,4m.net to the tech board. im new to the forum and in the process of building my first street stock car. We ran the car at Atwood, Tn, US. You have your choice of either steel panels or aluminium panels. It just won't work. Make sure your car is bind-free, the upper and lower arms move freely. Reply #9 - 05/01/09 at 8:00pm. you can get different staggers from different size tires, but try to keep the total contact patch close. Stock Car 1 is a 2000's era street stock. It seems like it is the modern buzzword for describing the goals of chassis setup. I am selling a Camaro street stock race car roller. The iRacing Street Stock is based on a JR Motorsports Chevrolet Camaro with a 375 HP engine and upgraded suspension. Pontiac Firebird/Trans Am. I don't really encourage that method. LOL. Remember that drag is an important aspect of aero design. 4 chrome wheels for car with 1 beadlock and 6 grey wheels with 1 beadlock. "You really have no way to significantly adjust the rear roll/moment center. If you find you need to tighten FOR 78-88 GM METRIC CARS. Note the new cross weight and the ride heights. Now we are proud to say Billy Moyer is a dealer of our chassis as well. Rear Geometry We run on a semi flat 1/2 mile asphalt track. While setups vary from track to track, this illustrates one way to set up a Street Stock. New members only. Numerous car builders have come to realize the truth in the above statements. I tried it first with bigger sway bars, and that never made the car consistent for more than a few laps. car was very stable. i need help selecting which spings rates and shocks and cross % to run on the car and any other tips on setup are much needed. Mini-Sprint (winged and non-winged) shock setup recommendations Micro shock setup recommendations Late Mode Dirt Car Shock Setup Recommendations Choosing the proper drag racing shock lengths AFCO Shock Dimensions by Series AFCO Open Wheel Tech11 Mini-Sprint (winged and non-winged) shock setup recommendations Micro shock setup recommendations I had forgotten all about this thread. Antidive and antisquat are mechanical influences that can help our transitional phases of entry and exit. Although there are (nearly) as many different variations on Street Stock rules as there are oval race tracks, the common thread is the use of an older American street car as the basis of the Street Stock race car. Would be a great dirt car too.355 sbc, double hump 492# heads, KB forged flattops on Eagle rods. Set up for manual transmission. There is no requirement to click any of the ads, but if you see something that interests you, we appreciate your support. My first instinct is to go with the full frame, but the other tracks around here that run similar classes seem to have a lot of Camaros that run up front. 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Since the spring promotes rebound and resists compression as inherent properties, then the shock rate of compression control must be less than the rate of rebound control. ft. with quick transfer to the right rear. I know this is an old thread, but did you guys ever finish?? He actually preferred the firebirds. I ran a street stock/sportsman from 1995 to 2000 with a metric frame. The very last thing you need to worry about is your aero package. I grew up in paved oval racing. Visible Anyone can find this group. JavaScript is disabled. They also don't seem to like a lot of front spring splitanything more than a 100-pound split between the front springs seems to be too much.". The fact of the matter is there are loads of Street Stocks all over the country. I talk to lots of racers representing every form of circle track racing in every region of the country and beyond. Sometimes it takes some out-of-the-box thinking. SUCH AS SPRINGS, SHOCKS, SWAYBARS ETC. Cars that don't turn well are very likely to have poor MC designs. I think a good quick steering box is also important in these carsoften the stock boxes are several turns lock to lock, which can make if difficult to run consistent lap times because your hands are all over the place in the car. The steering system in your car must be evaluated and any negative characteristics must be eliminated. Performer air gap intake. RR 175 Each suspension system desires to do its own thing when lateral forces are introduced from the car going through the turns. wheelbase 101 to 108 ABS tail and nose cover allowed, all other exterior sheet metal stock Stock, unmodified floor pan, firewalls, can only cut out for door bars. Plan your shock layout by comparing the stiffness of one to the other corners and to the spring stiffness at the corner you are trying to control. If the same stiffly shocked corner is in rebound, less of the overall load will be retained by that corner, and its diagonal corner as well, during the rebound cycle only. It includes 40 pages of valuable information and helpful tips and covers both IMCA style Modifieds and IMCA Northern Sport Mods. It must show a consistent gain in performance and a logical ideology to the bulk of race teams. Good luck. Watch. When it comes to grass-roots racing, it doesn't get any more "rooted" than Street Stocks. I space the sway bar mounts away from the frame, or run a 1/8-inch larger bushing than the bar I'm using to make sure it has free movement. where can i get info on the set ups for a metric chassis short track dirt car, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Street Stock/Sportsman Camaro Valance Wear Strips $ 31.00 Add to Quote. Street stock is the basic "run what you brung" kind of class with a lot of restrictions in place to keep it affordably competitive. 1. Setup for asphalt, Roseburg rules. That is the best description of the result of the dynamic force that influences each system. Posted August 22, 2005. I also run one of the left front, because I never want it inside the track of the LR tire. I'll check on which one is the best & post it here. Ackermann is easily checked by using a laser system or strings. First Generation Camaro Info and Tech - 1967-1969, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.pozziracing.com/second_gen_camaro_tall_bal.htm, http://www.pozziracing.com/tubular_upper_arms.htm, http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?73352-2nd-Gen-camaro-suspension-help, http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?4592-Roll-Center-design-theory, http://pozziracing.com/second_gen_camaro_tall_bal.htm, 67131821_160014455157704_391264163386621952_n.jpg, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I also prefer manual brakes. The bottom line is that at mid-turn, each end will want to roll to its own degree of angle. Get it right or don't get it at all. It may take a few test sessions to help you determine your balance, but if you observe the indicators correctly, then tuning the car for dynamic balance can be done. Antisquat results from the third link trying to straighten out, or become more horizontal as the car accelerates and the rear end desires to rotate. Cage is very sturdy and rear frame has been plated. Let's use two of the most popular types of dirt car-a touring Late Model and a metric-style Hobby Stock car. I started this thread and some other threads on other sites. CSU 500 Holley two barrel carb. Moving the pull-bar or just the third link to the left increases the loading on the LR tire during acceleration. there are a lot of knowledgeable guys there. 9. I have always believed in priorities because you can make gains faster when you solve the high priorities problems first. Setup Balance When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select . (total/right) 101 inch coil spring cars 3400/1530. This is the perfect cam for the hardcore street / strip enthusiast, and makes more torque and horsepower than our SS1 and SS2 VVT cams. A very soft spring would need more compression rate and less rebound rate, whereas a stiff spring would need a lot of rebound rate and much less compression rate. Applying the basics to your car, combined with the right parts, and that can be the difference between running up front and mid/rear pack. The left side suspension usually is designed with about half the angle of the right side in a conventional design. Sportsman Nose Support $ 39.50 Add to Quote. I can't tell you how many times I have refined the MC location in a car and had it totally change the way the car turned, for the better. He also claimed the Pontiac was a little bit wider. The driveshaft alignment is critical from the standpoint of mechanical efficiency. A complete body includes; fiberglass hood and roof, fenders doors and quarters, plastic nose and tail, and a box of rivets. Special Discount Cost- $24.95 ! We are at a crossroads at this point in time with setup technology in asphalt racing. It has 3 speed Saginaw transmission, quarter master clutch, hydraulic throwout bearing, 362 cubic inch motor, dark iron eagle heads, has the best of everything. Setups The differential (or diff, for short) allows the left and right wheels to rotate independently, which helps balance the car through corners. Today. Welcome Guest. . Disconnect the sway bar and zero (unload) it. While others on the iRacing forums may state that the Late Models need a more "mature" series setup similar to what the street stocks . Negative aspects might include excessive bumpsteer (more than 0.030 bump in or out in for each inch of travel is considered negative by most designers), excessive Ackermann (more than a 1/4 degree added steer in either front wheel in 10 degrees of steering input is considered excessive), and incorrect steering quickness. The effect is huge. Is your car a street stock? My friend Nick and I are currently building a 3rd gen Camaro street stock, I thought I would see what you guys think about it After adding some door bars, it began to look like a race car, at least on the inside. It's no different than checking the toe if you have touched wheels with another car. Pure stock, street stock, or mini-stock Bilstein AK Series shocks and struts have what you need for the best handling, most responsive and most stable design possible for your application. Car went anywhere he wanted and was quick time, won the trophy dash, heat race and main. THAT ARE CHEAP AND APPEAR STOCK. going in and quick rebounding of lr. The components that locate the rear end must be evaluated and set correctly. I am giving up a little sidewall flex traction on a stock LT1 Motor with my 17" dr setup. Cra bomber, turbo ,etc Private Only members can see who's in the group and what they post. Your email address will not be published. The number one reason a car will be tight and not want to turn is because the front end is not designed properly. Most often, these pivot points are the upper and lower ball joints in your double A-arm style suspension system. 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