"I tell people my priorities. And guys dont go on an off the roster 3 times a week. 750k is nice pay, and thats a storied collegiate program. 2023 Baseball HOF preview: Downballot candidates try to hold Report: Royals want Greinke to accept inexpensive, incentive Report: Red Sox bring in Alfaro on minor-league deal. He could have identified relievers to trade for who he could work with and get the best version out of them. Bullpen coach Pete Maki is expected to take over the lead pitching coach role from Johnson, but Twins officials have stressed that truly replacing Johnson will be a group effort involving multiple internal staff members. The LSU athletic department does not use public funding. The fact that major league coaches ACC Freshman of the Year Tommy White, who hit 27 home runs, transfers to LSU baseball, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. The story is worth checking out, for a number of reasons, but what struck me in reading about it is what it reveals about the compensation for coaches, and what it says about how they are valued. He was initially hired as minor-league pitching coordinator but was promoted to the major-league staff in 2021, replacing Bob McClure. Seems weird, because its mid-season MLB, and the odd nature of the hire. Johnson was a hit, as the Twins won division titles in 2019 and '20. The Twins first learned of Johnsons negotiations with LSU on Saturday. Ya know, the people who actually do what colleges are supposed to do? This also happened while I was involved at a high level program, but it was a Player Development Director rolehe ended up managing later in MLB. Who will step up? And why would he do all of this in the middle of the season? The minimum salary for an MLB player was $570,500 in 2021, while under the new CBA, the minimum salary is now $700,000. Can be a lot more satisfying. Report: Marlins eyeing Arraez as Twins renew efforts to shop Eppler: Mets' lineup deep despite losing Correa, Report: Marlins among few teams considering Chapman. Was it true? Maki, in fact, was hired by the Twins from Duke University, where he was pitching coach. If they had matched LSUs offer, which reportedly will pay him $750,000 per season, fans would have been thrilled. "That's when he told me that he had a great opportunity for himself and his family at LSU," Correa said. Try a week on us. Unaware of the shocking news that was coming 24 hours later, Twins right-hander Chris Archer praised Johnson after throwing five shutout innings Saturday against the Rockies, saying Johnsons coaching and support have played a huge role in his improved health and return to effectiveness after several years wrecked by career-threatening injuries. Johnson will also have full control of pitching development. Twins officials were fond of saying In Wes We Trust regarding his recommendations for reclamation projects and minor-league signings, believing in his ability to tap into unseen value with mechanical and pitch mix changes. "What does this person need up here to prepare them to go out there and do their job? Theyre not even paying a key coach half of what the MLB minimum is for a player. The latter two are still in middle and high school in Johnson's native Arkansas. A huge bump in salary, for a job that wouldnt have been available in October, made sense. Twins must want some prospect(s) from that college. Johnson reportedly received an annual salary around $350,000 from the Twins when he left the University of Arkansas for MLB in November 2018. has anyone Keep in mind that college athletic programs are a major selling point to Alumni Departments when asking for donations. Well, Davey Johnson made Dwight Gooden pitch complete game after complete game with the Mets and ruined his career. It's my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, one. The plan is for Johnson to stick around with the Twins through their upcoming five-game series against the Cleveland Guardians, and leave for LSU after June 30. Heres something you dont see every day. We start talking a few days in advance, we put together a plan and we execute. If coaches depart midseason, it's usually because the team is losing games and staff are losing jobs. In fact, for about a 20 year period, the athletic department was able to donate about $7-12m to the general fund of the university to aid in scholarships, aid, upgrades, etc. He later joined Arkansas. He coached in the SEC at Mississippi State and Arkansas before going straight to the majors in his first MLB job. Then asked seatmate Gio Urshela to read it, too. He read the first tweet on his timeline twice. Major league coaches particularly a hitting or pitching coach generally arent going to jump ship mid-season. Wes Johnson is headed to LSU to be their new pitching coach. Its not like Johnson or the Twins were headed in a bad direction. Odd that he would leave during the season and not negotiate leaving after the season. Yes, LSU is one of the top programs in the nation, and plays in one of the top conferences, but still, it is, prestige-wise, something of a step down. Minnesota hasthe 11th best ERA in MLB and is in first place in the American League Central. The Athletic reported on Monday that Johnson was making $400,000 per year with the organization. However, it may have created an issue within the clubhouse. From 2020-21, LSU athletics spent more than they made. Strip the team, win the same make money off your ignorant butt. Someoldguy your precisely why mlb owners should all spend less on talent. In three-plus seasons with Johnson as pitching coach, the Twins ranked No. No worse than a team firing a coach in midseason. Presumably, assistant pitching coach Luis Ramirez or bullpen coach Pete Maki are the likeliest candidates to step into Minnesotas pitching coach role on at least an interim basis. Johnson was initially hired out of the college ranks in 2018, after developing a reputation as one of the better instructors at the college level. Sunday evening, we found out that Minnesota Twins pitching coach, Wes Johnson, was leaving the organization for Louisiana State University. 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I expect hell be successful at LSU and continue there or at other elite college programs for as long as he wants. I give credit to Wes for helping turn a lot of meh Twins pitchers into pretty okay Twins pitchers. I appreciate that. Ability of MLB pitching staff to perform is in doubt. The request was filed by LSUs beat reporter for The Athletic, Brody Miller. It's hard. So he likely has no interest in going back again. Let your Yes be Yes, and your no be no! Johnson was leaving a good team to take the same position at a lower level, albeit at a school in the powerhouse SEC. That offsets any loses and brings in a lot of money. The team found out about the news when it broke on Twitter, leading to what I can only assume was an extremely awkward flight to Cleveland. The problem is not how pitchers are handled its that they dont know how to actually pitch. Matt Shoemaker blamed the Twins coaching staff for his performance during the 2021 season. And with a 162-game season, plus a couple of months of spring training, Johnson was missing family moments. I dont think so. Wes Johnson talked to rookie pitcher Jhoan Duran as teammates listened on Opening Day. The team won the AL Central twice and are currently in first place again. "What are you going to do?" This Samuel guy knows just enough about baseball that his friends think he knows a lot but everyone else knows differently. When news broke about Johnsons departure, it was reported that he was getting a substantial raise to leave Minnesota for Baton Rouge, with Johnson getting around $750,000 per year to coach for the Tigers. Why do you think Fernando Valenzuela flamed out? By the time the plane reached 30,000 feet somewhere over Wisconsin and regained Wi-Fi access, the first-place Twins knew they were losing the innovative coach who'd helped the staff to the 10th-best WAR in the majors since the start of the 2019 season, and to the seventh-best ERA in the majors this season. Well, yeah, but I think this is a step down, right? What strikes me about this is what it says about how MLB organizations value coaches. LSU, meanwhile, was very aggressive in recruiting Johnson. Just really taking that start in., (Photo of Wes Johnson in 2019: Jim Mone / Associated Press). There was never anywhere close to the number of pitching injuries we routinely see and accept each year. Just look to Cora/Hinch/Beltran for examples. But after a records request at the school was fulfilled later in the afternoon, were finding that not to be the case at all. The big issue for us as fans is the position this leaves the Minnesota Twins in. An updated look at the Minnesota Twins 2022 payroll table, including base pay, bonuses, options, & tax allocations. Salaries from players who have been placed on the injured list, still counting against the payroll. Leftover salaries from players who have been traded or released, or buyouts for declined options. Proj. Tax Payroll While a Twins source said pay and resources were not an issue in Johnson leaving, a coach leaving the majors for a college gig does put into question how MLB Likely candidates are assistant pitching coach Luis Ramirez, bullpen coach Pete Maki and run prevention coordinator Colby Suggs, though the team has emphasized it will be a group effort to finish this season. They had just won the final two games of their homestand and expanded their lead in the American League Central. They said they'd wait until they got to Cleveland to address it. @Samuel unethical?? Who is back? Instead, Johnson will make near the same money ($380K/yr + incentives) with his new collegiate employer, as what he was making with the Twins. And I'm like, 'I don't know. Koki Riley covers LSU sportsfor The Daily Advertiser and the USA TODAY Sports South Region. Johnson left his position as the Minnesota Twins pitching coach to come to Baton Rouge. Send this article to anyone, no subscription is necessary to view it. But.a public university paying $750K per year for a pitching coach? As one of the leaders of the Trackman technology, the Twins believed that Johnson would give them an advantage. So not only will Johnson be at a level thats more comfortable for him and where he has more experience, hell also be closer to family with a likely pay raise headed his way: Wes Johnson said spending more time with his family was the primary factor in his decision to take the job with LSU. I think Wes is one of my biggest advocates, Archer said. From Sarris/Buchanan: No source contacted for this article knew of any pitching coaches who made [$750,000] in the big leagues. This is when a LOT of hires take place. If a pitcher pitches too many innings and doesnt have enough cartilage to protect his arm, that pitchers effectiveness will go downhill. He is taking near similar money, if not less https://t.co/pX7dKdXK7V. Gambling problem? But to go from the major leagues the pinnacle of the sport to college baseball? ", The move has become more common in the last three years. Johnson didn't have a chance between Sunday's game and flight to properly inform the team before the news leaked. Johnson had never worked in pro baseball prior to being hired by the Twins, though several teams in recent years have hired coaches with more varied resumes than the usual background as a player, coach, or manager at the MLB or minor league levels. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER. Just interesting because of the unusual nature of an active MLB pitching coach being involved. 7 among AL teams in ERA, including No. has anyone been to the bottom of lake tahoe. You have the most accurate handle Ive ever come across. Tell that to Steve Carlton or Tom Seaver, after looking at their complete game totals. The college season is much less demanding, though the year-round recruiting seems to be a big factor in his quick departure. The term sheet has a$380,000yearly base salaryand runs through June 30, 2025. Its actually hire time for NCAA. Subscribe to The Athletic for in-depth coverage of your favorite players, teams, leagues and clubs. Thats a significant improvement compared to the four seasons prior to Johnsons arrival, when the Twins ranked No. Theres pretty much nothing that can be done on the Twins end except maybe a signing bonus that would have to be returned. The 29-year-old right-hander could be dealt by the salary-shedding As by the Aug. 2 trade deadline, joining Matt Olson, Matt Chapman, Chris Bassitt and Sean Manaea, who were jettisoned earlier this year in moves that cut payroll to a major league-low $48 million on opening day. He signed a three-year, $1.14-million deal with LSU, but that's before considering any incentive clauses, which can be sizable at the college level. While the offseason is likely filled with recruiting trips and watching some of his own players play in summer leagues, it doesnt match the 162-game grind of an MLB season. When LSU head coach Jay Johnson was still at Arizona, the program hired Nate Yeskie from Oregon State as their pitching coach, who was also courted by the Yankees at that time. His final day with the Twins will be Thursday. Less travel, twice as much moneywhats not to like? When Falvey and Levine took over the Twins, the cupboard was bare in terms of quality pitching. The team announced bullpen coach Pete Maki will take over Johnson's duties. He told reporters the same Monday in the visitors' dugout at Progressive Field. "It was a lot more emotional than I thought it would be," Smeltzer said. In this case, at least, the SEC trumps the AL Central, which has the potential to send shockwaves through MLB if other big-time college programs attempt to lure major-league coaches in a similar manner, more than doubling what is a fairly typical salary in the big leagues. Minnesotas decision to hire Johnson was initially met with skepticism. The term sheet has a $380,000 Its actually in the MLB rules the reason to play the game is to win and what gives you the best chance of winning TOP PITCHING you want a championship Get 2 Ace pitchers and some offense.. and every season youll have a shot at a world series why because pitching wins post season games.. The Twins were reportedly paying $400,000 a year for Johnsons services, a number thats in line with what a lot of college pitching coaches make. Arkansas wasnt too shabby. Still, questions about how much Wes is getting paid with LSU could go down in history as a mystery because even at The Athletic, where all of this reporting is taking place, they have no idea how much hes really making. He will now be paid $750,000 per year by LSU, sources confirmed. I expect that hes burned any bridge back to MLB by leaving a division-leading team mid-season. I went to the College World Series a few years back when LSU was in. So what? As they rumbled along to the runway, Morse asked about the rumor. If Johnson was doing that much and making roughly $400,000 per season, as Hayes reports, theres a chance its the high end of what assistant coaches are being paid. Summer camps start in July and fall practices and scrimmage games for college teams start September 7th. [/q Major League pitchers are doing on disabled lists at an epidemic rate. The athletic department is strong, and pretty self-sufficient in all sports. What does it say about the Twins that LSU would pay him DOUBLE what a Major League Team will pay? Johnson's last day was Thursday in Cleveland. I'm very happy for him, but I'm also very disappointed that the best opportunity isn't here.". It had been a long time since a coach had jumped to the majors without getting a minor league role. A five-game series with the second-place Cleveland Guardians awaited, and the Twins were ready to re-establish themselves as the best team in the division. Lateral or step down doesnt really matter when youre making 500K more a year. TOMMY WHITE TO LSU:ACC Freshman of the Year Tommy White, who hit 27 home runs, transfers to LSU baseball. "He's the best pitching coach I've ever had. That info wasnt there when the person posted their reply. Youre always going to have times where guys are not throwing the ball the way they want to, even your trusted guys. Accept each year last three years paid $ 750,000 per season, plus a of. 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